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Jim Rauch Interview Transcription Jun 11, 2017 12:47:40 GMT -5 Tixxx Tixxx, notkayla, and 20 more like this

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Post by AGwestion on Jun 11, 2017 12:47:40 GMT -5

Hi everyone...I've gotten so much entertainment out of the Predoverse. I wanted to find a way I could give back, to make you all feel a little more like the special princesses you are because that's how much you mean to me. So, I picked out my all-time favorite video and have started in on transcribing it. I'll post more as I get further in...Jim isn't easy on the ears and there's a ton of stuff going on. I actually find reading the text helps me to better understand the video as well. Basic notation added by me on items that I found interesting. Enjoy!

Part 1: In which there is much stammering

(Male): So you just were out driving?

(Jim): No, no I don't want to admit, admit that.
(seems like an OVI defense...I believe he wasn't knee-walking drunk, but definitely lifted)
(Male): Ok, ok. Did you come out to see, see somebody today?

(Jim): Uh, somebody invited me to come over.

(Male): Ok. Well, who was that?

(Jim): Um…Cheyenne somebody.

(Male): Ok. How'd you meet, uh, how'd you meet Cheyenne?

(Jim): I was on, online, and it came up.

(Male): Ok. Uh, when you were online, do you, do that at home? Or do you..

(Jim): I do it home.

(Male): You do it at home? Ok.

(Jim): Yes.

(Male): Do you, is that generally the only place you do it?

(Jim): Yes.

(Male): Ok. Well, do you, do you have your own personal computer or a laptop?

(Jim): Yes.

(Male): And so…

(Jim): Both.

(Male): Oh, do you have, you have both?

(Jim): I actually have two laptops.

(Male): Two laptops? Ok. Um, do you use…

(Jim): That's my business.
(classic)
(Male): Ok, it's your business. Ok.

(Reid): What…what type of business?
(first and last we hear from Kathryn for awhile)
(Jim): My…I do webpages for, for University of Cincinnati. I have access to those, those, uh…I need to have access to those in, in order do business...with them.

(Male): Ok. Ok. And do you usually use all those computers to chat to people? Or…chat? Or, do you use just one, one specific, or...?

(Jim): Um, usually at home.
(didn't answer the question...perhaps he meant 'only my personal laptop'?)
(Male): Usually at home. Ok. Alright…and…
(ignores...not important)
(Jim): If I do, if I do chat…

(Male): If you do…

(Jim): …which I don't , I don't do…but that…again, because the fact of the business that I'm in. Chat is a part of what I do, and chat is a part of the University of Cincinnati distance learning.
(another classic)
(Male): Ok. Um…

(Jim): And…I need to be able to do, to access that, in order to be able to do the business…the business side...with them.

(Male): Ok. Ok. Um…so you met, so you met Cheyenne…?
(redirecting back)
(Jim): I didn't met, meet Cheyenne….she, she...came after me.
(wut)
(Male): Ok, she came after you? Tell me about that.

(Jim): I don't, I don't know…I don't exactly know how it happened, at all.

(Male): Ok.

(Jim): I have no recollection at all what happened for her to make contact with me. I don't know. Was on…was I on some line of some sort…I have no idea.

(Male): Ok. So you were chatting and she came on, she came on to you while you were chatting some, sometime?

(Jim): Well, somebody did…who, whatever, whoever Cheyenne is.

(Male): Ok. Do you, do know how old Cheyenne was?

(Jim): She told me she was 13, but and, and I was very, very, very...I don't, I don't do that.
(he was slurring before...when he talks about Cheyenne, he stammers as well)
(Male): You don't do that?

(Jim): I don't want to do that. I mean, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not there.

(Male): You're not there?

(Jim): No, not at all.

(Male): Ok. Uh…

(Jim): I'd be happy, you know, like, give me a, give me an 18, 19 year-old and I'll be happy.
(truth)
(Male): Oh yeah.
(male cop eggs him on)
(Jim): 13 year olds, I'm…god, it's, it's gross.

(Male): Not your thing?

(Jim): No, not at all.

(Male): And…when you were talking to Cheyenne on the chat, chat line…what, what'd you guys talk about?

(Jim): Well, up until this afternoon, which was…uh, what I, I, I gave in 4, 5, I thought, thought she was more like, uh, an adult, but…um, no, no, yeah…I was very, very cautious not to, not to be there. I didn't want to be there.
(stammering)
(Male): Ok.

(Jim): I really don't. I really, that's not, not, not my thing. I don't like it, don't want it…don't want…[unintelligible] were.

(Male): But you might have had a little curious…a little curiosity?

(Jim): No, no. No, I don't have any [unintelligible]…

(Male): Which is normal…
(I didn't pick up on this gem until I listened super-closely...male cop comes off a little sharper in text form IMO)
(Jim): …I'm not, I'm not not even curiosity. I don't have any curiosity about it. It's, it's too young, it's, it's, it's stupid. And, now you can go back and look at all the records of the conversations I've had…yeah, that's exactly what I said. It's, it's stupid. That's not what I want to be.

(Male): Ok. You know…

(Jim): I don’t even like...I don't even, I don't even…that's not, that's not me.

(Male): That's not you?

(Jim): No, not at all.

(Male): Uh, do you have any type of webcam or anything like that?

(Jim): I do have a webcam.

(Male): Ok, ok. Um, do you ever use it for any, for any purposes, or…?

(Jim): It's, it's available.

(Male): Ok.

(Jim): Use it? I don't know what that means.

(Male): Ok. Alright. So, we didn't, we didn't get into what you guys talked about. What, what'd you guys talk about?
(webcam is dead-end for now, let's redirect)
(Jim): I was very, very, up until today, which is obviously the reason…results have come…I had been very, very cautious of not talking about anything. I do not want to be involved with a 13 year-old.

(Male): Ok.

(Jim): I do not like it, I don't want it, and…I, for some reason I just, I just gave…relaxed, and…

(Male): So, who do you think you were talking to?

(Jim): Another person.

(Male): Another person. Ok.

(Jim): Really, [unintelligible]…that's honest with you, uh, for whatever worth, value that is…

(Male): Eh…I've…

(Jim): I've done, I've done…I can not condone the, the, the statements that I would've made this afternoon to her. I, I would, I wish I could retract them.

(Male): Yeah.

(Jim): Not because of you guys.

(Male): Yeah.

(Jim): But because the fact that I, I…I just don't, that's not it. That's not me. I don't know, I don't see it. I don't…
(stammering...he's super uncomfortable)
(Male): Jim, I understand, alright. And…and…[unintelligible]…I understand you've, you've made a mistake, ok? I've read the chats.

(Jim): Right. And you can see how…

(Male): You know, you know, I see here where you told her that you wanted to fuck around…and that you…

(Jim): Where, where…and what, and what provoked that?
(if he wasn't drunk, I'd say this was a probing question to the detectives and what dirt they had)
(Male): You know, yeah…

(Jim): I mean, you, we can go down…

(Male): Yeah.

(Jim): I'm not gonna go through the details so the thing is…

(Male): [Unintelligible] I know, I know…

(Jim): I understand what you're doing. And I knew [unintelligible]…

(Male): I'm just trying, I'm just trying to understand here…you know…

(Jim): I…I did not, I didn't [unintelligible], not meet with her, number one. Number two, I, I didn't really want to meet with her.
(I wonder if him listing points like this is because he's talking down to the cops or because he's desperate to keep his shit straight)
(Male): Ok.

(Jim): It was, it was…I, I really, if you go to the bottom lines of things, talk, let, let's talk about facts that I denied and I did not want to do that. I really did not want to.

(Male): Jim, I know you're under a lot of pressure right now. And I'm sure your wife…
(never caught this before...trying to turn the screws in, but Jim is oblivious anyway)
(Jim): I'm not under any pressure at all…

(Male): I…well…

(Jim): I'm really, I'm really not. I mean, well, obviously being here is a little bit of pressure, but that's not…

(Male): Are you married?

(Jim): Yes. No, no, god no. You want her? You can have her.

(Male): Eh, heh…I already got, I got one of my own. I, I, that's enough for me.

(Jim): Yeah, this would just give her ammunition, that's all.

(Male): Well, I'm not trying to give any ammunition for nobody. This is just me, you, and Kate here, ok?

(Jim): Well, it's not, but…

(Male): Well…

(Jim): Ok. I did not do anything to this, whatever this person is, whoever it is. I did not intentionally…

(Male): Ok.

(Jim): …meet with, I met with this person because this person, whoever it is, male or female or whatever…enticed me to the point where I wanted to [unintelligible]…

(Male): Enticed you.

(Jim): And I, I…

(Male): Did you…so you guys did talk about sexual acts in your conversations.

(Jim): I don't remember that.

(Male): Ok.

(Jim): You can go back and [unintelligible]…

(Male): Yeah…I mean, I [unintelligible]…
(trying to parse Jim constantly trying to talk over the cops is pretty difficult)
(Jim): …I don't know, I don't really don't know, it doesn't really, as far as I'm concerned…

(Male): You know…

(Jim): It doesn't matter.

(Male): You know, I…Jim…I'm just trying to figure out what really happened. Because if, well if we don't talk about it now and if I just give this to somebody, they're going to think you are…a sick, maybe possibly a child predator, and I don't think you're that for me. Ok?

(Jim): I'm not.

(Male): And you're not. But if we don't talk about it, what else…

(Jim): [Unintelligible]

(Male): …what else can I tell people, saying, 'You know, Jim, Jim made a mistake. This [unintelligible] happened...'

(Jim): I didn't follow through, number one. Number two…

(Male): Yeah.

(Jim): Number two, uh, because if the fact that I didn't follow through was, is, uh, I'm not so sure that I would've turned down the street where I was picked up.

(Male): Yeah.

(Jim): Uh, if you, if you check back on the, the records, on the, the results, there've been three, three, at least three times where I, where I turned around. And I, I, I, I'm not, I, I don't do this. I don't, number one, I don't really want to. Ok?
(epic stammering; any OVI concerns are completely forgotten at this point)
(Male): Uh huh.

(Jim): Give me some sex, ok? And I'll find ways to do the sex, but don't, don't [unintelligible] here's the thing [unintelligible] this is crap. It's really, really crap.

(Male): If nobody stopped you tonight, what do you think might have happened?

(Jim): Nothing.

(Male): Nothing?

(Jim): Absolutely nothing. And I'll be honest with you about that. I, I…nothing. Nothing would've happened.

(Reid): [clears throat]
(cough *bullshit* cough)
(Jim): I, uh, ok…god, is this, is this the place to tell…those stories?
(I want to think that Reid's cough and both cops looking at him incredulously caused the unraveling beyond this point)
(Male): Yes. Good as place as any. Jim, we're just trying to be honest with each other.

*more to come*

Last Edit: Jun 11, 2017 15:22:11 GMT -5 by AGwestion: clarity

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Jim Rauch Interview Transcription Jun 11, 2017 15:17:20 GMT -5 Tixxx Tixxx, kimkookmin, and 2 more like this

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Part 2, in which I begin to regret taking this on. Jim decides to go all-in with delay tactics, anything to keep from talking about the nasty shit he said and was planning to do with Cheyenne. Enjoy.

(Jim): I went to a swingers club last night and walked out.
(classic...there are actually several up in Dayton, but it's generally not wise drop in solo)
(Male): Where's that at?

(Jim): Up in Dayton.

(Male): Up in Dayton, Ohio…Kentucky?

(Jim): Uh huh. Dayton, Ohio. I walked out. I, I, I…and the reason I walked out is because, you know, it's not for me. I, I'm not selective. I don't want you to think of it as being selective. I'm just, I'm looking for some, some, some satisfaction from some, somebody.

(Male): [Unintelligible]

(Jim): [Unintelligible]…nuh, nuh, and I'm not looking…and again, my own motivation is not, not, to, to, to...um...just find somebody who, who's, who's...who's interested in me. Ok? Not, not, not, not young, not old, not fat, not thin, not…someone who is interested in…in…who I am. And that's [unintelligible].
(literally anything to try to maintain a feeling of control over the topic)
(Male): And, how long have you and your wife been divorced? Or been separated? Or…?

(Jim): We've been, we've been divorced for, um, 2000, what was that, four years or five? Almost four, almost five years.

(Male): Five years ago? And…

(Jim): I've had other women, I've had, I've had relationships with other women. It's not, It's not that. It's not a sexual thing, [unintelligible].

(Male): Oh yeah? What is it?
(good question!)
(Jim): It's somebody...and, and, and I guess, um, ah, I put this out…maybe this isn't the right place for doing it, but…Cheyenne, whoever Cheyenne is…

(Male): Uh huh.

(Jim): …some George down the hallway, talked to me. And, when that person talked to me…was a person… Now, I have other people that I talk to, and...for whatever that's worth, and I don't want to bring them into this, but, but…

(Male): Made you feel good, didn't it?

(Jim): It, it, it kept me away from the loneliness that I have, when I'm, when I'm sitting in my, in my house by myself. And, um, [unintelligible].

(Male): Nobody to talk to…?

(Jim): Yeah.

(Male): You feel that lonely feeling, and, you know…

(Jim): That, or whatever, whatever, however that culminates itself.
(ha, first culmination sighting)
(Male): And Cheyenne filled that, didn't she? She fulfilled that, that need.

(Jim): Yeah, but then it turns around because of, this, this crap. Which is…

(Male): Well…

(Jim): …which is, which I understand your need for doing it.

(Male): But…

(Jim): I, I, I don't, I don't, I don't…

(Reid): So you [unintelligible]…

(Jim): I see there's a need for…
(yes, he's rude and I believe this is indicative of his attitude towards women...but he's also desperate to delay)
(Reid): …live alone?

(Jim): …there's a need for people out there. And, um, yeah…and, uh, that need is fulfilled...by…and, and, and I, and, and the law enforcement, by the way I'm in criminal justice, hey, I'll tell you that…I am...that's the bottom line, but…
(regret intensifies)
(Male): Alright…

(Jim): But, but, but I am, I, I, at UC, I work for the criminal justice department. Um…there is a need for, for, for, for people in this society to have, to have, have a connection with somebody. And…I don't care, I don't want that, where that connection comes from...I, I think is, is, is crucial, and that's where I've gotten fucked up, you know, but...

(Reid): [clears throat]
(you watch your mouth, loser)
(Jim): Don't judge me on that.

(Male): I'm not, Jim, I'm not judging you…

(Jim): I know, I really, I, I know you're not, and I know, but I, but eventually I will be, so, yeah…and, and I know that system, how it works.

(Male): Yeah.

(Jim): Um…

(Male): But Jim, I, I can understand that, you know, when you're feeling lonely, and you, and you're feeling like you have, you know, you're [unintelligible]; do you just live by yourself?
(offering an olive branch/justification...you were just lonely, dude)
(Jim): Uh huh.

(Male): Ok. And you felt that lonely [unintelligible] you go home every night.

(Jim): Uh huh.

(Male): You're feeling lonely…and you talk to Cheyenne…

(Jim): Or whoever.

(Male): And…whoever, you know we're chatting about Cheyenne in here. You feel like you can feel, do you feel like you can feel open to say things?

(Jim): Right. And, and, and I…

(Reid): [clears throat]
(insert Caddyshack 'WELL...?' meme here)
(Jim): …and, and, I don't, and I don't, you know…and I, I think it's unfair of the, of the, of the, the justice systems to condemn me for talking with somebody. Um, if it's, it's underage, I can understand that and, ah, I know that's where you come in. Um…my relationship that they created, was created by with my relationship to, to, to Cheyenne was because of the fact that I, that I closed that out.

(Male): Uh huh.

(Jim): And…I…I, I, I fault you guys with that.
(damn, son)
(Male): Uh huh.

(Jim): Because, uh, of the investigations or how you do that, is that that person who, who is making those communications…starts to connect with the person.

(Male): Uh huh.

(Jim): And that, and that connection that, that you make is not, isn't, or may, maybe it would for perverted people, is, is, is one, is, it's really negative. But with a, with a person like me, it connects.
(see, if I were a pervert this would be bad...but I'm not, so it's...good?)
(Male): Uh huh.

(Jim): There's, there's somebody who's talking to me. And, uh…I don't know…you do what you have to do. Let's, let's cut the bullshit, let's go. I'm, I mean, I'm just, I'm, I'm to the point, you know…I'm lonely…

(Male): Uh huh

(Jim): …uh, I'm not [unintelligible] with my ex-wife, I wouldn't do that anyway.

(Male): Yeah.

(Jim): I have people who, who don't want to talk to me anymore, I don't care. So I have, I have somebody who, Cheyenne, who, who, who talks to, or whoever it is, you, whoever...Cheyenne. Yeah, it's ok. Yeah, maybe I went little overboard, and, um, if I did, I'm paying, I'm paying the price.
(drunk man reflects upon his life, sort of confesses)

More to come!

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Jim Rauch Interview Transcription Jun 11, 2017 17:19:56 GMT -5 Tixxx Tixxx, cocaine, and 2 more like this

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Post by AGwestion on Jun 11, 2017 17:19:56 GMT -5

Thanks to Cookie and Tixx for procuring and hosting this gem. At first, I couldn't stand Jim Rauch...there are nasty echoes of people I know that this guy absolutely drives to the surface. Then I read the chat log and listened to the calls, and I started to view this interview, and Jim, in a new light. I now appreciate Jim's interview in much the same way that I appreciate Lorne's TCAP encounter...this is a twisted person getting his comeuppance in a supremely satisfying and entertaining way. Just gotta polish the diamond...well, a lot...to make it shine. Anyhow, I'm going to take my time on this project - I'm about 15 minutes (out of 120) in today.

Intermission 1: Buckle Up (my opinions & thoughts on Parts 1 & 2)

I believe that Jim was drunk at the time of the questioning...enough so that he could've been put into the tank instead and he would've passed out for the night quickly. I think he was under the impression at first that he was picked up for OVI. It makes sense to me that they didn't bother with that charge...what he ended up with was so much worse, why even bother? I think that the timeline basically was: decide to visit Cheyenne in person, hammers down multiple vodka drinks (maybe takes a couple for the road), drives like a maniac and waffles on the phone between 'I'm coming to f**k you' and 'I shouldn't do this,' gets picked up, passes out in police cruiser en route to the station, wake up for questioning. It seems pretty clear that he had little to no understanding what was about to happen, but he came in with a guilty heart.

His first defense is to tie his chat with, and visit to, Cheyenne, to his work (it's my business). Once his computers become a focus of questions, he attempts to big-time the detectives. He was evasive and vague right up until he's asked if he knew how old Cheyenne was. I think at this point that Jim might have figured out that the police had his phone calls - and that this was much bigger than an OVI - but believed/hoped they didn't have the chats as he was getting questioned about their contents. He seems to have figured out that Cheyenne isn't real. He mentions a couple times 'statements' or 'records' from earlier that day but doesn't reference the chat log.

When the male detective reveals that he's read the chats, it's hard for me to tell if Jim didn't realize what that meant or chose not to acknowledge this fact. It goes downhill pretty quickly from there, as Jim continuously tries to pivot the conversation between how he's not into teenage girls and how he didn't actually meet Cheyenne. His second defense of denial culminates (lol) in his conspiratorial question of if he can tell 'those stories' here...he might be drunk, but he's doing his best to manipulate the interview into Jim's backstory and not Jim's offenses.

He gets philosophical and nonsensical...just grasping for something, anything to say to keep his side of the conversation going. His third defense is to try to buddy-buddy the detectives. The detective corrals Jim pretty consistently into a 'lonely old/divorced guy' narrative, while Jim breaks out to critique the investigation and try to connect with 'the justice system.' Eventually, he accepts the detective's narrative...we end Part 2 with Jim partially broken and totally ready to talk. The challenge for the detectives going forward is to keep him focused.

Last Edit: Jun 11, 2017 20:05:29 GMT -5 by AGwestion: clarity

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Jim Rauch Interview Transcription Jun 11, 2017 19:45:36 GMT -5 wolfknight30 likes this

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Part 3: Deep answers in a world of chatting, in which Jim succumbs to the barstool mentality and gives us a lesson

(Reid): So do you spend a lot of time chatting?
(finally, Kathryn!)
(Jim): I don't know what a long time is. Um…

(Reid): I...I guess it's relative, to…

(Jim): It really, it really is. I mean, eh, I mean, probably a couple hours a day…

(Reid): Yeah.

(Jim): …maybe three. And, and, and, and, and most of it's not chatting. Most of it's just trying to find somebody who wants to talk.
(this might be kind of sad if it wasn't so disturbing)
(Reid): Yeah.

(Jim): And I think that's a, I think that's a major problem, too.
(o rly?)
(Reid): What do you generally talk about with…Cheyenne or other people? Um…just whatever comes up?

(Jim): [Unintelligible] anything, anything. Music…the weather, heh. You know, you know, it really is, um…I'm trying [unintelligible] I'm really being honest about that. I don't know that I don't need to go any further, I mean, and I'm, you know, you are [unintelligible] this great, wonderful thing you're gonna find out the answers to the world on chatting, but...it's a, it's a whole world out there. And, um...I have, I've some real problems with what's going on right here. Um...because I think it's an infrasion [sic], in, an invasion of, uh, privacy. Not, not in terms of the, the, the, the younger age. I think that somebody else should've stopped that before I got into it.
(there's a lot of classic here)
(Reid): Well...um…I'm not a chatter…

(Jim): Ok.

(Reid): …so if you can educate me a little bit on…

(Jim): Ok. [Unintelligible] perfect…

(Reid): On where, where would you go to find somebody to talk…

(Jim): Ok, [unintelligible] in that case, this Cheyenne thing…
(hook, line, sinker)
(Reid): Uh huh.

(Jim): Um…that was done through Yahoo…Yahoo Messenger…

(Male): Uh huh.

(Jim): …who has pure 18, you don't know that, do you? If you are, uh, if this in the sessions…adult…cam. Adult…Kentucky. And I, and, in, in that regard, I, and that's where I really…come off with, with I think it's, it's not fair for you to come at me. Um…I'm, except for the fact that up front because of the way you guys do the way you do things, you, you make, make sure that you say it's...13, 14, whatever. But, [unintelligible], it shouldn't be there in the first place. If...if you're, if you, if it's gonna be ille-, if it's gonna be something that legally, um...binds Yahoo or Goggle [sic] or whoever it happens to be, to be an adult place to go, then...if I go there...and you can say that you're 13, why are you there in the first place? How did you get through that first, that first level? And I, and I really have [unintelligible], I really have a, a problem with that. Um...I mean, you guys have heard this over, and over, and over....
(Jim is super-drunk talking by now...by the end of these soliloquies, he can barely form words)
(Reid): I, I'm really interested in knowing how this chat thing works and how you met Cheyenne…um…what type, is it…?

(Jim): [Unintelligible], I have, I don't [unintelligible] idea, to go back to that, I don't know, I don't know what initiated the first conversation with Cheyenne, I don't, I don't remember…it's, it's, it could've been three weeks ago, it could've been a week ago, I have no idea. But, but I know...that, maybe I went through and I looked and, and I went down my, my, my list of people who were adult cams...and I said, 'Hey, you interested in talking?' Boom, web cam available. And, she got the, the name cames [sic] up. [Unintelligible]...

(Reid): So you can tell that they had a web cam…?

(Jim): Yes, you can tell that.

(Reid): Ok. So that's something that you look for when you talk to people…?

(Jim): No, no, no, no, I don't, no, no, no, no. I don't look for it. I don't look for it.
(denial, a river in Egypt)
(Reid): Oh, ok.

(Jim): No, I look for somebody to talk to. You know, and, um…

(Reid): But if they have a web cam, even better…?

(Jim): Even...no, no. It, it doesn't really matter…

(Reid): Oh.

(Jim): ...it really doesn't matter. It means that they're probably prostituting or they're putting their stuff out on the cam.
(pot, meet kettle)
(Reid): Ohhh.

(Jim): Most likely, it means it doesn't mean a damn thing at all.

(Male): So what happens after that? [Unintelligible]

(Jim): [Unintelligible] I put up a message up, and they respond. And her…and, uh…Cheyenne responds.

(Male): What happens after that? I'm, I'm not tech, I'm not tech savvy.

(Jim): Ok, ok, ok…so, so Cheyenne responds. She says, 'Hi, how are you?' 'Hi. Hey, what'chu doing?' And it go, it goes from there. Then, you know, if, if they're, if they're in the legal system, and they're, they're taking care of their little, little niches that they need to take care of, say, 'Well, I'm only 13.' 'Oh, that's ok. I still want to talk to you, I don't, what, what's going on? How was school today?' And I don't, and I don't mean that, and I don't, that sounds so trite, and it doesn't, and it doesn't mean, in terms of me...I'm a teacher, I've been a teacher, done it. 'How was, how was your school today?' is not, well, 'Let me get in and fuck you.' That's not it. It's...understanding that person. And, and, and I, I guess, I guess that's what the...
(there's so much wrong with this...he's literally describing how he would/did engage a child online and how he could get caught)
(Reid): Because they have social needs, too, just like you.
(ouch)

More to come later this week!

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Jim Rauch Interview Transcription Jun 12, 2017 21:18:10 GMT -5

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Part 4: The Setup. Intentionally short, in which the detectives offer Jim a longer rope than 'lonely divorced guy,' and he now becomes 'helper teacher guy' for the next eternity of the interview. It gets results but it may be the painful way out. Enjoy!

(Jim): They have social needs…here, ok, and and, [shh], and and, what is present to me from Cheyenne or whoever it is…[unintelligible]…is, here's this girl, supposedly girl, who's supporse [sic], supposedly is going through a divorce, whose parents are separated...not as an opportunity for me, as a predator, to go after them, but as a person, to, to try and answer questions, and then, and then, and I [unintelligible]...
(still drunk)
(Reid): You're helping them.
(Kathryn, noooooooo....!)
(Jim): Eh...except for, like I said, this afternoon, which, uh, which I [unintelligible]…and, I only went overboard because the fact that I'm, I'm personally was frustrated…but that's neither here nor there…

(Reid): So do you see your role as...helping them…through their life, as well as them helping you?

(Jim): I'm always doing that. That's the person I am.
(finally sees new non-lonely/divorced old guy lifeline, grabs it and holds on for dear life)
(Male): Sounds like you've done it for many years. I mean, you've helped people, you know…

(Jim): Thirty, forty years…

(Reid): Uh…

(Jim): …and not only on the internet, but, but, but, you know...

(Male): Well, [unintelligible] I'm not saying, in your life, in your lifetime..you, you've helped many, many people…

(Jim): …to my colleague that's next door to me, I, [unintelligible], I'll put my mouth on her, do what she needs to do. I'm, I'm, I'm not a, a bad person…I'm really not. Um, and I, and I didn’t hurt her…I hurt whoever the, whoever this…Cheyenne was, which was...and I knew it, um...I don't know, maybe I, maybe in the, in the back of my mind, eh, I, I, I just, I, I, I knew this was bad. I knew this was bad. In, in the, in the back of my mind, I mean...
(curious as to who his 'colleague' is...that's a mystery)
(Reid): You…you knew what was bad?

(Jim): That this was a setup…it was all a setup.

(Reid): Oh, talking with her was a setup?

(Jim): Yeah, from the beginning.
(asserting some dominance, first time in awhile...he thinks he will take the upper hand)
(Reid): [clears throat]
(omg)
(Jim): Uh, and, and in, in, in that, in that set, in that, in that, in that frame…I was hoping that it wasn't. But…in the, the, the, the good nature that I am, I uh…[unintelligible]…I really wanted to help. I, I, I, you know…[raspberry]…
(and...frame)

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Jim Rauch Interview Transcription Jun 20, 2017 17:34:47 GMT -5 AGwestion and stacybabst like this

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Nice work, AG. Rauch is one of my favourite predators, so this is great stuff. Transcribing audio can be tedious at the best of times, but for one of this length and audibility (though there is a version with audio boost, which is helpful) must be a real slog. I was also interested in your interpretation on Rauch and the interview, and think you raised some very good points. I'd to read some more of your thoughts on the interview, if you were happy to do so - it might make a nice break from the transcribing. Looking forward to Part 5, at any rate. Keep up the good work.

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I'm…god, it's, it's gross.

Yes Jimbo, you are God. At least to a few people anyway.

By the way, I recall Pence posting some pictures of Jimmy's happy birthday where the communists were invited. There was a photo collage with some picture of Jim and the family when he was younger. (A picture of a picture.) I swear to fuck he looked just Billy Mays in one. Is there NE way I could get you bring me a bigger picture of Young Jim?

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Hey folks, I’m back. Wish I had a good story, but sometimes life gets moving too quickly and you end up on 471 and 275 and sometimes on 27 and you get lost. I want to finish this out and then do an analysis on my channel to launch it. Sorry folks for my extended absence.

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Oct 15, 2019 17:29:18 GMT -5 AGwestion said:

Hey folks, I’m back. Wish I had a good story, but sometimes life gets moving too quickly and you end up on 471 and 275 and sometimes on 27 and you get lost. I want to finish this out and then do an analysis on my channel to launch it. Sorry folks for my extended absence.

You better finish the transcript or il fuck ya!

Welcome back hope all is well.

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Oct 15, 2019 19:33:43 GMT -5 Mike Pence said:

Oct 15, 2019 17:29:18 GMT -5 AGwestion said:

Hey folks, I’m back. Wish I had a good story, but sometimes life gets moving too quickly and you end up on 471 and 275 and sometimes on 27 and you get lost. I want to finish this out and then do an analysis on my channel to launch it. Sorry folks for my extended absence.

You better finish the transcript or il fuck ya!

Welcome back hope all is well.

Lol you and Clobbah are my inspiration for cracking this back open. Time to finish something.

Thanks man, I’m doing alright. Went to Rhino’s last night and would’ve gone home with 3 girls but I just walked out.

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Post by sanchower on Feb 16, 2021 15:12:47 GMT -5

Part 5: Levels Of Intensity

(Ed.: It's been a while so I'm picking this up. It is very difficult transcribing Jim's mumbled, slurred, incoherent bullshit, but I shall do my best.)

(Reid) How were you gonna help her? Tonight?

(Jim) Tonight?

(Reid) Mmm-hmm.

(Jim) Talk with her. ... Talk with her about this divorce thing that her parents are going through... I mean, really, it... that was my... just... (trails off, sighs, shakes head)

(Male) Do you think it could have been more?

(Jim) No. No, no. Got it... okay, uh. Let me go back to what I was (unintelligible). I went to, like I said, a swingers club in Dayton. (smirking) I walked out. 3 women there. (shaking head) That's not what I wanna... I mean... sex... sex... sexual... mmph...
(he definitely doesn't want to continue down this line of inquiry)

(Reid) But in your chat, you ask if she would have sex...

(Jim) Well, be... be... only, only, only because... I was... trying to get that... that corner in to, to her, uh... to, to , to, let loose, (WTF!? - Ed.) and, y'know... and I dunno, maybe in the wrong, maybe in the bad sense of things, maybe that was a... but I don't, I don't think it was, I wouldn't have followed through with it.

(Male) So it was more you were just trying to get a connection with her?

(Jim) Yeaaaah... yeah, I really did. I really did. I think she's just, just, doesn't know where she's going. She doesn't know where she's going.

(Male) She's trying to figure life out. And you're trying to help her figure that life out.

(Jim) I... I... that's... (unintelligible)... at least that's.. in MY sense of it...

(Male) In your mind... in your mind... in YOUR mind...

(Jim) I, I, y'know, I, I would've... the LAST thing I wanted to do was come over here to (unintelligible) and, and, and, and meet... (long pause, inhales) a thirteen year old? Gimme a break.

(Reid) Hmm. (clears throat)

(Jim) Last night, I coulda had, I coulda had two women. Why would I wanna do... why would I wanna do that?
(I thought it was 3 women, Jim? Which is it? LOL)

(Male) But... but, tonight, you were just trying to help somebody? You... you know what I'm saying?

(Jim) (interrupting) I, I really think, I really feel I was trying to do that. I really, um, And, I, I turned her down TWICE, if you read those damn emails! I turned her down twice! "I'm not comin', I'm scared (of getting caught- Ed.), I don't wanna do it, it's, it's, too much for me to do!"

(Reid) Yeah.

(Jim) And I really, and I really felt that way, but I was, but I was trying to... she was so sure... Now, again, it's that... (trails off, makes goofy face) y'know, and this is, this is the part that bothers me, is that, that, provoking... to get me to DO... something... (trails off, licks lips) and WITHOUT that provoking, I would have, and she, she would have backed off, if it had been backed off, (unintelligible) I would not even have, I would not even have THOUGHT about...
(remember, this is the guy who immediately introduced himself in the chat as "m/50s horny". But suuure, tell us more about how she "provoked" you)

(Reid) Yeah but she must have really needed you, for you to... for her to...

(at this point, Jim wakes up a little, as if suddenly remembering that the whole thing was a setup)
(Jim) (interrupting) No, not SHE - whoever it is. Let's, let's let's make clear of that.

(Reid) (crosstalk) Right, but what you THOUGHT, was that she needed you...

(Jim) (now acting wounded and indignant) That's, that's, but that's, yeah... uh, absolutely. Absolutely. And, and y'know what, when I, when I go back to that, in relationship to the police department, the cri- criminal justice... you gotta watch out with how far you take that! Because there are people who DO care about other people! I, I, and I'm... (trails off)

(Male) Umm...

(Jim) You can write off this thing, umm, you can take me to court and all that... I, I wasn't gonna hurt that kid.

(Male) And I don't think you were.

(Jim) I, I WASN'T! I was.. there's no, there's no question about it!

(Male) I, I... Jim, I honestly think you were not gonna hurt... Cheyenne, or whoever you thought you were gonna meet tonight. You're... Jim. I know you're not gonna hurt her. Right?

(Jim) (interrupting) No, I, I, I wasn't.

(Male) (Waits a second for Jim to finish) I don't think you had ANY intention of...

(Jim) (interrupting again) I had more intention of hurting MYSELF, than I do, with, with, to hurt her...
(trails off, realizing this is nonsense)

(Male) But you needed to fill a void... (long pause) and you...

(Jim) I needed.. no, no, uh, no, it's not a, it's not a void, I (unintelligible) don't wanna make it a void. I got people I talk to some, some places. Okay?

(Male) But a need? Would it...

(Jim) I have a need... to help people...

(Male) Yeah.

(Jim) Maybe, maybe that's closer to it than, than, filling a void, then, cause... I do have people who have problems and, and I know problems, and, but... yeah... I said enough. I said enough..

(Reid) Relationships... relationships are hard.
(she's trying to keep him awake and talking)

(Jim) Yes they are.

(Reid) And it, it sounds like the um, the connection you were making with her, she was innocent, you were innocent, and you were just trying to help her, and it just got out of hand.

(Jim) It got out of hand... I agree with you. (nods sleepily)

(Reid) Yeah. And it's... it's much easier to talk to a younger person, because they're more open and understanding?

(here's his big soliloquy)
(Jim) But see.. and it's... (unintelligible) and, again, I think this is the lesson that YOU need to learn ... (very long pause) you're playing a role. (smiles a bit) And when.. or whoever the... whoever's doing it... is playing a role, of something that they're not. And when they play that role... they've got all this stuff behind (does jazz hands to demonstrate "stuff"), all this garbage... not garbage. It's not really garbage - it's really experience, okay? - they've got that behind them, and they're manipulating it all the way through it...
(he nods off a bit here, seemingly losing his train of thought)

(Reid) Mmm-hmm.

(Jim) (trying to get back on track) and with a person, or a, a good, successful... um... (long, searching pause) what are they, what are they, what are they called... officer? (shrugs) Who is, is doing this, a good officer, can, can, can, can remove that a little bit? So they can be innocent? To, to... (waves hands theatrically, as if to illustrate his point) bring that in. But the return on that, which is the problem... is the person from the outside who comes in.... (grimaces, shakes his head) ... they don't see it as that person who has that, has that, has all that control. (pause) And therefore... (another swooping hand gesture) relax... give up... (makes hand gesture indicating "levels") levels of, of, of, of intensity that they might not have if they were talking to an adult. (nods, rolls eyes backwards) And therefore because of relaxing that intensity... (sighs) maybe some things out that need to get out, but also, go up, in my case, go over, go overboard. And, and, expect that person who's on the other side who, who is (sudden pointing gesture at the detectives) is intelligent enough and has the experience enough to really understand what's going on there... make a CRITICAL judgement... instead of an emotional judge... an emotional judgement on what's happened to a person like me. (shakes head self-pityingly) I don't know if that makes sense (not even a little bit - Ed.), but... Do what you have to do. I don't, I don't really care. I mean, I really do, it's gonna... it's either gonna crush my life, or it's gonna (unintelligible) we're gonna go...

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Feb 16, 2021 15:12:47 GMT -5 sanchower said:

Part 5: Levels Of Intensity

(Ed.: It's been a while so I'm picking this up. It is very difficult transcribing Jim's mumbled, slurred, incoherent bullshit, but I shall do my best.)

(Reid) How were you gonna help her? Tonight?

(Jim) Tonight?

(Reid) Mmm-hmm.

(Jim) Talk with her. ... Talk with her about this divorce thing that her parents are going through... I mean, really, it... that was my... just... (trails off, sighs, shakes head)

(Male) Do you think it could have been more?

(Jim) No. No, no. Got it... okay, uh. Let me go back to what I was (unintelligible). I went to, like I said, a swingers club in Dayton. (smirking) I walked out. 3 women there. (shaking head) That's not what I wanna... I mean... sex... sex... sexual... mmph...
(he definitely doesn't want to continue down this line of inquiry)

(Reid) But in your chat, you ask if she would have sex...

(Jim) Well, be... be... only, only, only because... I was... trying to get that... that corner in to, to her, uh... to, to , to, let loose, (WTF!? - Ed.) and, y'know... and I dunno, maybe in the wrong, maybe in the bad sense of things, maybe that was a... but I don't, I don't think it was, I wouldn't have followed through with it.

(Male) So it was more you were just trying to get a connection with her?

(Jim) Yeaaaah... yeah, I really did. I really did. I think she's just, just, doesn't know where she's going. She doesn't know where she's going.

(Male) She's trying to figure life out. And you're trying to help her figure that life out.

(Jim) I... I... that's... (unintelligible)... at least that's.. in MY sense of it...

(Male) In your mind... in your mind... in YOUR mind...

(Jim) I, I, y'know, I, I would've... the LAST thing I wanted to do was come over here to (unintelligible) and, and, and, and meet... (long pause, inhales) a thirteen year old? Gimme a break.

(Reid) Hmm. (clears throat)

(Jim) Last night, I coulda had, I coulda had two women. Why would I wanna do... why would I wanna do that?
(I thought it was 3 women, Jim? Which is it? LOL)

(Male) But... but, tonight, you were just trying to help somebody? You... you know what I'm saying?

(Jim) (interrupting) I, I really think, I really feel I was trying to do that. I really, um, And, I, I turned her down TWICE, if you read those damn emails! I turned her down twice! "I'm not comin', I'm scared (of getting caught- Ed.), I don't wanna do it, it's, it's, too much for me to do!"

(Reid) Yeah.

(Jim) And I really, and I really felt that way, but I was, but I was trying to... she was so sure... Now, again, it's that... (trails off, makes goofy face) y'know, and this is, this is the part that bothers me, is that, that, provoking... to get me to DO... something... (trails off, licks lips) and WITHOUT that provoking, I would have, and she, she would have backed off, if it had been backed off, (unintelligible) I would not even have, I would not even have THOUGHT about...
(remember, this is the guy who immediately introduced himself in the chat as "m/50s horny". But suuure, tell us more about how she "provoked" you)

(Reid) Yeah but she must have really needed you, for you to... for her to...

(at this point, Jim wakes up a little, as if suddenly remembering that the whole thing was a setup)
(Jim) (interrupting) No, not SHE - whoever it is. Let's, let's let's make clear of that.

(Reid) (crosstalk) Right, but what you THOUGHT, was that she needed you...

(Jim) (now acting wounded and indignant) That's, that's, but that's, yeah... uh, absolutely. Absolutely. And, and y'know what, when I, when I go back to that, in relationship to the police department, the cri- criminal justice... you gotta watch out with how far you take that! Because there are people who DO care about other people! I, I, and I'm... (trails off)

(Male) Umm...

(Jim) You can write off this thing, umm, you can take me to court and all that... I, I wasn't gonna hurt that kid.

(Male) And I don't think you were.

(Jim) I, I WASN'T! I was.. there's no, there's no question about it!

(Male) I, I... Jim, I honestly think you were not gonna hurt... Cheyenne, or whoever you thought you were gonna meet tonight. You're... Jim. I know you're not gonna hurt her. Right?

(Jim) (interrupting) No, I, I, I wasn't.

(Male) (Waits a second for Jim to finish) I don't think you had ANY intention of...

(Jim) (interrupting again) I had more intention of hurting MYSELF, than I do, with, with, to hurt her...
(trails off, realizing this is nonsense)

(Male) But you needed to fill a void... (long pause) and you...

(Jim) I needed.. no, no, uh, no, it's not a, it's not a void, I (unintelligible) don't wanna make it a void. I got people I talk to some, some places. Okay?

(Male) But a need? Would it...

(Jim) I have a need... to help people...

(Male) Yeah.

(Jim) Maybe, maybe that's closer to it than, than, filling a void, then, cause... I do have people who have problems and, and I know problems, and, but... yeah... I said enough. I said enough..

(Reid) Relationships... relationships are hard.
(she's trying to keep him awake and talking)

(Jim) Yes they are.

(Reid) And it, it sounds like the um, the connection you were making with her, she was innocent, you were innocent, and you were just trying to help her, and it just got out of hand.

(Jim) It got out of hand... I agree with you. (nods sleepily)

(Reid) Yeah. And it's... it's much easier to talk to a younger person, because they're more open and understanding?

(here's his big soliloquy)
(Jim) But see.. and it's... (unintelligible) and, again, I think this is the lesson that YOU need to learn ... (very long pause) you're playing a role. (smiles a bit) And when.. or whoever the... whoever's doing it... is playing a role, of something that they're not. And when they play that role... they've got all this stuff behind (does jazz hands to demonstrate "stuff"), all this garbage... not garbage. It's not really garbage - it's really experience, okay? - they've got that behind them, and they're manipulating it all the way through it...
(he nods off a bit here, seemingly losing his train of thought)

(Reid) Mmm-hmm.

(Jim) (trying to get back on track) and with a person, or a, a good, successful... um... (long, searching pause) what are they, what are they, what are they called... officer? (shrugs) Who is, is doing this, a good officer, can, can, can, can remove that a little bit? So they can be innocent? To, to... (waves hands theatrically, as if to illustrate his point) bring that in. But the return on that, which is the problem... is the person from the outside who comes in.... (grimaces, shakes his head) ... they don't see it as that person who has that, has that, has all that control. (pause) And therefore... (another swooping hand gesture) relax... give up... (makes hand gesture indicating "levels") levels of, of, of, of intensity that they might not have if they were talking to an adult. (nods, rolls eyes backwards) And therefore because of relaxing that intensity... (sighs) maybe some things out that need to get out, but also, go up, in my case, go over, go overboard. And, and, expect that person who's on the other side who, who is (sudden pointing gesture at the detectives) is intelligent enough and has the experience enough to really understand what's going on there... make a CRITICAL judgement... instead of an emotional judge... an emotional judgement on what's happened to a person like me. (shakes head self-pityingly) I don't know if that makes sense (not even a little bit - Ed.), but... Do what you have to do. I don't, I don't really care. I mean, I really do, it's gonna... it's either gonna crush my life, or it's gonna (unintelligible) we're gonna go...

I completely forgot this thread existed.

Perfection written at its finest.

Jesus Had Days Like This.
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Jim Rauch Interview Transcription Feb 16, 2021 16:47:48 GMT -5 Oh man! likes this

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Post by sanchower on Feb 16, 2021 16:47:48 GMT -5

Part 6: The Wrong Ballgame

(Male) I think by getting it off your shoulders and talking about it.. I think you're making a step, somewhere. I mean...

(Jim) I'm not, I'm not trying to get, I'm not trying to get some damn 13-year-old in my bed. I don't... that's not it. (shrugs, grimaces) If I wanted to get somebody in my bed, I go to the swingers club, I go to the date - I go to the people I date, which there, there are three or four of that I normally date, and I can do that. It's not, it's not, I mean, it's not... I'm not a predator. I'm not that... that... that... in that ballgame. I don't like, even, young women. (darts eyes about) I don't ... so there's a real problem with that. I'm sorry. (chuckles) It's, it's, it's, it's, like, young guy, little guys, ehh put them over there! (gestures to the side jocularly)

(Male) (agreeably, egging him on) It's not your thing!

(Jim) Yeaaahh, it's really (unintelligible)!

(Male) It's not your thing!

(Jim) But it's, but it's, but, but beyond my not my thing, it's... I don't... there are people out there who DO. And, and, that's not me. You're... you're... really.. seriously...

(Reid) yeah.

(Male) And, y'know, Jim, if I thought that WAS you, I wouldn't waste my time here with you. Because if, if I felt that way, I'd say, "you know what? Jim's like that? Throw you away." And out the door I go.

(Jim) (interrupting, again) Okay. Okay. Let me give you another indication. I taught music for thirty... one years. I have never been arrested in that thirty-one years for any kind of child molestation or anything like that. (VERY suspicious choice of words. He didn't say he never did it - just that he was never arrested. Hmm. -Ed.) And in thirty-one years, I've seen many, many kids go through the, through the system. Through the systems that I work. (shakes head) It's the wrong ballgame. It's just not, it's just not me.

(Male) Okay. So when you were online chatting, and you felt that... you were, you felt like you were talking to somebody who possibly DID understand, and probably had some experiences, you felt like you could "let go", right?

(Jim) (sighs, licks lips) You know, it's funny... it... to put it in perspective, over the last couple of weeks, which... Cheyenne has been involved... I did not feel that way until tonight. ... And, I don't know what made that difference. I don't... I have no idea what made that difference? But I felt I... I... maybe it's a movement on the part of people, whoever... did... to, to, to, to kind of motivate me to go that direction. Um... (long pause) No. I really was very, very cautious of not letting any, any information out, not any, not, not even my emotions... Until tonight.

(Male) Until tonight. Tonight you felt, you know, that you could (crosstalk) to be free?

(Jim) (interrupting) I guess I was (unintelligible) I was, I was just (unintelligible) I was uhh, I was... I was tired of playing games, and... and doing things, and just backed off, and just... okay. "You wanna, you wanna talk, you wanna get together? Here's my phone number, gimme a call, I'll do it". I mean, really, it's, it's, it's (unintelligible)...
(he has switched back into sad-drunk "woe is me" mode)

(Male) You let your guard down.

(Jim) I let my guard down, only because of the fact that I had my guard up for weeks... And, and, and, and only... And, and, and... through that guard that I had... I thought maybe she needed some help. Maybe she needed to talk to somebody. Maybe she was moving in a direction that she... That I could help her in some way. Really. That's the honest answer.

(Male) And what did you want to talk to her about? In regards to...

(Jim) I wanted to open up those, those channels. I don't, I don't know where she was, in that regard? I wanted to open it up so she COULD talk to me. Uh, and she, and, and, and, in the past, she was guarded too.

(Male) And she...

(Jim) Or whoever. (once in a while he remembers)

(Male) I mean you talked about a lot of things, you said. I mean, you talked about, you know, different things?

(Jim) Mmm-hmm.

(Male) Did... How did you guys talk about... I know you said you let your guard down.

(Jim) Mmm-hmm.

(Male) And you were feeling lonely. How many times did you guys talk about sexual things?

(Jim) Nuuhhhh... none! uh, nothing, until tonight!
(big, fat LIE here from Jim. Go, read the transcript. He's sexual on every damn page. Disgusting.)

(Male) Okay, nothing until...

(Jim) That I'm, that I'm aware of.

(Male) That you're aware of?

(Jim) I don't remember anything, that, connotation, of, uhh, um. And if it, and if it was, uhh, it was really off the wall...

(quick recap:
"would u like to suk on this?"
"so cheyenne do you fuck around?"
"i could fill u up 4 real tonight"
- this was all within the first half hour of their "relationship")

(Male) Off the wall?

(Jim) Yeah it wasn't like as, as, as, as straightforward as it was tonight.

(Male) So what do you consider straight... kinda, off the wall? Something that you remember that you guys talked about?

(Jim) Ohhh, I don't remember, I don't remember, specifically...

(Male) (not buying this) Did you guys, I mean... off the wall things maybe about giving blowjobs, or anything like that, or?

(Jim) Uh, talking about how, what, kinda relationship she had, did she have with her boyfriend.

(Male) Okay.

(Jim) I mean, uhh...

(Male) Did you guys go deeper than that?
(Jim frowns, like he smelled a fart. He REALLY doesn't like where this line of questioning is going)

(Jim) He ever touch you?

(Male) Yeah.

(Jim) About that. That's about it. That's about the extent it. That's... that's... (unintelligible)

(Male) Did she ever talk to you about going deeper than that? I mean, any...

(Jim) Not until tonight. And I'm, uh, (unintelligible) I'm not sure really she went that far with me, as much as I went with her, and that's... that's my problem. I'm, I'm sorry.
(he chuckles, like he didn't just confess to a felony)

(Male) What... What did you guys talk about tonight, that it just kinda seemed like everything -

(Jim) (interrupting) I don't, I don't know what it was about tonight, (unintelligible)... (long pause, Jim shakes his head) I don't know what, what provoked that. Maybe it's just a commonality, or just a talking over a period of time? Which is, which I'm... probably a lot of it.

(Reid) Kinda culminated, over a couple of weeks?
(culmination alert!)

(Jim) No, it, it wasn't a culmination, it was, ah, (licks lips) um, it was more of a, of a, of a, of a, um... (very long pause) just a, just a, uh... (pause) relaxed nature between two people? Uh. ehhh, and it (unintelligible), doesn't, it wasn't a culmination of things. It was more of a, of a, of a relaxed nature of... (long pause, shrugs) understanding each other? I, I, uhhm... (trails off)

(Reid) So you felt like you were on the same page?

(Jim) Y-Yeah... And I um, and (unintelligible) that, that, that we could talk about something.

(Male) And you were open! You guys were open, where you could -

(Jim) (slurring badly) Yeah, yeah, I agree with that... (unintelligible) It became, it became, for some reason, it became more open tonight than ever before. And um... and then obviously, explodes... (long pause) But, I.. again, I jump on you guys for that. I jump on you for that. Because, because, that, that, what, what I needed, whether it was Cheyenne, or Joe Blow... I needed someone to talk to. And, and, instead of someone to talk to, I end up with... with.... investigations...

(how dare you investigate me for trying to rape a kid! I was sad! I jump on you! this fuckin' guy, I swear...)

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Jim Rauch Interview Transcription Feb 16, 2021 18:19:18 GMT -5 Oh man! likes this

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Post by sanchower on Feb 16, 2021 18:19:18 GMT -5

Part 7: Beyond My Feelings (The Other Side Of Me)

(Male) Well...

(Jim) I understand. I, I, I don't, I don't criticize you for it. Don't under - Don't misunderstand.
(quickly walking back the "I jump on you", I see)

(Male) I understand.

(Jim) I, I, I, it's, it's, it's a real social... and it's a real social problem - and, and, how often do - do you do this every night?

(Male) Nope.

(Jim) No?

(Male) No, this is - Jim, you - like we said before, we're just trying to - get at what happened tonight, and what's been happening. And, you know, I understand that - you've had a rough time.

(Jim) (nodding) Mmm-hmm.

(Male) And you've needed to talk to somebody. You could have gone out with two women, or three women, the other night -

(Jim) Fifteen. (LMAO -Ed.) ... I mean, (unintelligible) last, the other night, two nights... okay...

(Male) ...right, yeah. Talking to Cheyenne... made you feel good... Kinda let you...

(Jim) It solved, it solved a problem, is (unintelligible). But it didn't solve a problem in terms of, I didn't do anything, except for talk.
(yeah. The reason it didn't solve your "problem" is because the girl was fake and you got arrested, you schmuck)

(Male) Yeah.

(Reid) (clears throat)

(Male) When you.. and then tonight, was just a culmination of, you know, you felt like, you know, hey, maybe you, maybe I need to see her. Maybe she can actually... I can open up. I can open up to her.

(Jim) And that's exactly... and that is really... essentially it. Uh, uhh, uh, and I, and I, and I, you know, did it, would it, come to, in some sexual thing? Uh, I'm not gonna say it wouldn't? But in the (unintelligible) in the other side of me, which, which... it, it wouldn't have. It wouldn't have.
(The phone starts to ring. Jim is offended at this interruption to his monologue)

(Jim) I can't BELIEVE your phone's ringing... It would not have, it would never reach that point, because of the person I am.

(Male) Hmm.

(Jim) And, because I would never have taken advantage of her. If you go back on those, you will see it. How many times I asked her, "are you sure you wanna do this? are you SURE?"... And the reason why is because I didn't want to hurt her. I didn't wanna... She was young... supposedly... she was young, and I did not wanna do that. I, I, really... this young thing... (makes dismissive gesture)
(it doesn't matter if a 13-year-old is "sure", bro)

(Male) I don't think you - Jim, you did not - I KNOW you did not want to hurt her.

(Jim) No, I didn't.

(Male) And you went there tonight... to see her... to help her out... you know... and things could have, you know? But you - but you - I don't think, if anything would have happened - and I'm talking anything - you would have never hurt her.
(subtly leading him to incriminate himself even further. This guy is good)

(Jim) No. No, I wouldn't have. That's not me.

(Male) That's not you. But... you know, you know, you were there for her, you were trying to be there for her, and you came here for that reason, to be there for her, tonight.

(Jim) And, and, let's be, let's be realistic about that, too. I, I came here to be for her, possibly sexually too. And, and, and, and, and, I, but, I don't know if, if I could ever have done THAT. I, I don't think I could ever done... I, I mean, I'm serious. I went to the, I told you this. I went to the swingers club. Up in Dayton. I have gone there TWICE! And I have walked away! (thumps the wall in emphasis) Because... no! That's not me... what I want! I, I wanna go to someplace (licks lips) and meet somebody who really really needs what I am. Not.. my dick. You know?
(I have no idea why Jim thinks this swinger's club story is some sort of slam-dunk defense. It does not paint him in a favorable light!)

(Male) Who wants you for you. (Not becaaaaause he hangs with Leonardo! -Ed.) Wants Jim.

(Jim) Yeah! And, and, and, I'll do a couple (unintelligible)... we can go into personal details on that. But there are people...

(A loud, ringing feedback noise is heard. Jim looks about in confusion, then presses on)

(Jim) There are people in my life, who... would do anything for me to, to just give up everything I have and just go with them. But I won't do it! And there are other people on the other side who, who, who, need every bit of me! And I can't give, I can't give them that, because I've got this other person who REALLY needs me, who doesn't... who won't say that they do!

(Male) And tonight...

(Reid) Sounds...

(Male) (to Reid) Go ahead.

(Reid) Sounds like there's a lot of relationship issues going on for you right now.

(Jim) Oh, absolutely. Oh, absolutely. I've... no question about that. I... I can be specific about it. You want to talk about specifics, or you want to talk about legalities? I have a girlfriend, who won't get married, who doesn't wanna see me, except on the weekends, when she wants to get fucked. (Gross. - Ed.) Okay? I have another, another woman, who just, who just, would love for me to just move in with her! I can't move in with her, because she's, she's, she's not going anywhere! She's not... she's not... I want this one to come around but she never will. So what I do, (mimes text messaging) juggle phone calls between these two. Then we add in the other emotions of, you know. So I can't satisfy any one of the two... And I know you're... (laughing, to the detectives) I can see, you're GONE on this, you have NO CLUE what I'm talking about! But there's.. but that's... all going on...

(Male) And these are YOUR feelings...

(Jim) Well no, they're BEYOND my feelings. They're, they're people who AFFECT my feelings. And they're people who, who... I can get down on my knees and say... "stop this shit." And, and, and, mmm, eventually, I'll die, and everyone else will go on.

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Post by sanchower on Feb 16, 2021 20:14:46 GMT -5

Part 8: Tonight Was About Feelings

(Male) And tonight?

(Jim) It's just.. As, as I said. I don't care. I don't wanna be involved in a whole bunch of legal shit. (haha little late for that Jim! -Ed.) (sighs) I been there before. Not, not major, but... Yeah, I, I know what it's like... shit's... (unintelligible)... and, um...

(Male) But you wanted to be there for her tonight.

(Jim) (nodding) I wanted to help somebody out. I wanted, I wanted somebody. She... Her mother was not around. Her father was not around. And she did not know what to do.

(Male) And she had emotional feelings... sexual feelings...

(Jim) Mmm-hmm. Mmm-hmm.

(Male) She had a multitude of feelings.

(Jim) Right. And I could answer some of those, by my... dialogue... (unintelligible) and...

(Male) Y'know... but right now, we're talking about it, and that's the main point. I mean, you could come in here, and say, y'know...

(Jim) I still... I still feel sabotaged.

(Male) Yeah, I'm... I'm not trying to sabotage you.

(Jim) But I FEEL sabotaged.

(Male) Yeah.

(Reid) Oh yeah...

(Jim) Because, because, because of the fact that as... I'm not out there fuckin' the... the thirteen-year-olds, (not for lack of trying - Ed.) and, and, or getting them drunk, and taking them off to hotels, as, as we all know from the news today. I'm not doing that. And, and I don't have a desire to do that. (stares off into space)

(Male) But you felt a connection tonight. And tonight, tonight was...

(Jim) I felt she nnnn... .she needed...

(Male) And she needed you. And you...

(Jim) And I needed HER, in some sense. I needed to be able to...

(Male) Let yourself go.

(Jim) No, no, no. I needed to, I needed to... needy... there's a needy thing.

(Male) To help her.

(Jim is getting even more incoherent here.)
(Jim) There's a need. I needed to... I needed to... fulfill the need of somebody. And I've always done it, all of my life. We can go back with the history, with the, with the, with the, my school...

(Male) Yeah.

(Jim) And it's always that, always that. Trying to find some way to help some kids. And I really felt that, I really felt that need. And I'm not, I'm not, it's not bullshit, it's just the way I feel.

(Male) Not bullshit. I mean, if that's the way you feel, then I don't think that's bullshit.

(Jim) Well, I know, but on the, on the, on the side of it, people look at it, it... they don't see it that way.

(Male) But you have feelings. You'd be inhuman if you didn't have feelings. And tonight was about feelings...

(Jim) It was.

(Male) Tonight was about feelings, and about you trying to help someone, and you thought you needed...

(Jim) Help them, is the, is the key word.

(Reid) Yeah, and you wanted to share, with them...

(Jim) I wanted, I wanted to be able, after the discussion, we, we talked about, if it's sexual, or whatever it happens to be, I wanted to, to, to, to... Yeah. Share that this is how I would see it... What do you need? Where, where, where do we go from there? What... How's my role change with you... (trails off) Enough, enough, enough labor. Do, do what you have to do.

(playing him like a fiddle)
(Reid) You know, Jim... You've said several times that, you know, you feel sabotaged. We're not here to make life harder for you. I mean, you're in the situation that you're in. Right now, we have an opportunity to talk through things, and maybe get you in a better situation, so that you DON'T feel sabotaged.

(Jim) (licks lips) Okay, so, in, in, in that relationship. In that perspective. How do I deal... I'm gonna be online. (pause) Unless you guys chop off my arms and take my job away. (Don't give them any ideas - Ed.) Um... and deal with that, when I see someone who does have a need? Um... I don't need to search them out. I'm not talkin'... I'm somebody... I have NEVER... that's a whole thing... I never, NEVER, have gone to somebody on the Internet who hasn't responded to me.

(A long pause, as Jim waits for the detectives to be impressed by this)

However that, however that plays a perspective, how you deal with the job that you do... for ME, once they respond to me, then I, then I have... not an obligation, I don't (unintelligible), but I need to.. do I need to answer them? Or do I shut it off? And that is real... that is REALLY hard for me.

(Reid) (showing admirable patience with Jim's blathering) Yeah.

(Jim) That is really hard. When somebody said, "Hi"? After I said hi to them? (long pause) I mean, just that symbol. Just that symbol. If I, if I don't respond to them, it says, "oh. He doesn't care." It's like the 37,000 other people who don't care. You know? And I, and I, and I, and I have a real problem with that. Because if somebody responds to me, I always respond to them.

(Reid) Mmm-hmm.

(Jim) Okay. I've said enough. Do what.. do what... wha-wha-whatdda we need to do here? (bows head sleepily)

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Jim Rauch Interview Transcription Feb 17, 2021 10:32:12 GMT -5 Oh man! likes this

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Post by sanchower on Feb 17, 2021 10:32:12 GMT -5

Part 9: Let's Put It On My Dick

(At this point, Jim has tried to end the interview a few times - "do what you need to do", he says - but the detectives decide they'd like him to incriminate himself just a bit more. And boy does he ever in this segment, yikes.)

(Reid) If you could... talk more about the information that you exchanged with Cheyenne, as far as pictures, or chat?

(Jim) I never... I did have my webcam, and my webcam has been both, has been both, uh, uh, uh, visual as, I mean, obviously, seeing me... facially... genitalia...
(He tried to be subtle and slip that one past. Of course, the detectives pounce on it.)

(Reid) Genitalia?

(Jim) (nods, somewhat shamefully)

(Reid) How many times, would you say?

(Jim) I would say, maybe, one or two times, that SHE has... accepted to see me... that way.
(blaming the decoy again, nice)

(Male) And that was on Yahoo?

(Jim) It was on Yahoo, and it was her.. I never... I never forced it on her... she always... she always asked if.. to have a session. Have, have a... to accept it... Uh, but not, (licks lips) it, not always genitalia...

(Male) Face, genitalia, so there's a multitude of different things...

(Jim) Yeah, but (leans back, tents fingers on stomach) that's only, that's only, and again, (sigh) only because of the fact that I was, at that point, uh, not, not that I was, no... okay. "Cheyenne is gonna be on, so let's put it on my dick!" ... No. It was never that. It was there, (jazz hands again) I just clicked on, webcam is available, she accepted it, or not accepted it, in most cases, and she didn't always accept it either. Okay?
(I just exposed myself to her. If she looked at it, that's her fault!)

(Reid) Mm-hmm. And was this is response to the conversation you were having, or...

(Jim) No, no. There was usually no conversation in relationship to that. No, no, no conversation. Nothing. Uhh... Is this an adult cam? Nuh, nuh, not even that... It's... cam is available, if you want, you can see it, if not, mmm.

(Male) When,... when you sent that...

(Jim) (interrupting) But that's, okay, again, but, in relationship to other people other than Cheyenne? Uhh, that was, common, common practice for me.

(Reid) To...

(Male) What did... what did you hope would...

(Jim) If somebody wanted to look at it, they could, they could look at it, decline, look at it, stop, go on, do their own...

(Reid) So...

(Jim) That was my... that was my... and... that was my... (long pause) that was what I expected them to do. If they didn't want to see it, they didn't do it. If they did see it, and they look at it, they could click on.

(Male) So you set it up as, if she wanted to view it, she could view it, if she didn't, she didn't wanna...?

(Jim) (nodding) Exactly. ... And I've, I mean, I would have done that beyond, beyond Cheyenne. Way... all the other people that I had, had, had contact with. I mean, when you go through hundreds and hundreds and hundreds, and you get a response, and you put on, and you put on "my webcam is available", that's it.. and you.... and you get that choice.

(Reid) So.. when you said that there were uhh, webcam shots of your genitalia. What was going on? Was there masturbation involved?

(Jim) Not in... not in all occasions, no. (okay, so in other words, yes. -Ed.) Just there. ... There was, there was masturbation in places, in places that people who DID have a connection with me. Okay? In other words, people who have stayed with me, and been long - short term? No. No.

(Reid) What about with Cheyenne?

(Jim) Naah, no, I don't think so. I don't think so. ... And that, and that may be just a, I don't remember, but I, I don't think so. Naah. I don't think so. I think it was more like, here, here, here's a guy's thing, y'know? That, uh, that was more of it.

(Reid) More of an education? For her?

(Jim) I think so. I think so. She... she, wha... eh, at least whoever, whoever she is, (chuckles) we can go back to that, Um, y'know, it was, it was, more of a, of a, um...

(Male) Exploratory?

(Jim) This is, this is what a guy looks like.

(Male) Yeah.

(Jim) Oh, your boyfriend looks like - did you ever touch that - your boy, your boyfriend, "Oh yeah, I touched him once." That kind of... Nothing more than that, for... That I remember.
(brb, gotta go puke)

(Male) That you remember. Okay. And you said you only did that, like, one or two times? Is that, is that something else, or?

(Jim) Um... Probably one or two times, uh, uh, no more than that.

(Male) Okay. And in tonight, you said you were going to be for her. Various issues, you know, cause her - something with her parents...

(Jim) She said her mother was working at the hospital, and that, that, that, that she was free, and I had, uh, I connected, and

(Male) And you....

(Jim) I gave her my phone number...

(Male) You gave her your phone number...

(Jim) Which was, which was a big, a big step for me...

(Male) Yeah, well, for, y'know, (unintelligible)

(Jim) Well, big step for me because number one, I (unintelligible) I didn't know where she lived. And um, um, then we followed through with that, and then that fiasco, and driving all over town... (mumbles, trails off)

(Male) How'd you find her - How'd you find her place, there?

(Jim) Um... luckily?

(Male) Did you get like a Mapquest, or...?

(Jim) No, I had originally had a, had a, had a, a, map, but, uh, buhh, (unintelligible) I spent, I spent an hour looking... Her directions were terrible.

(Male) I'm sorry.

(Reid) Uhhh...

(Jim) Or whose, whoever it is. Their directions are terrible.
(no, the directions were fine - you were driving drunk, Jim. asshole)

(Male) They're... they were terrible?

(Jim) They were! (high-pitched giggle)

(Male) So did you have to call her back, or...?

(Jim) She called me, and obviously that was... (unintelligible)

(Male) And that's where you kinda asked where... where is this at?

(Jim) Well, where am I going? What am I doing?

(Reid) Was it a cell phone, or... on your home phone?

(Jim) I'm not sure. I, I had a cell phone. I had a cell phone.

(Reid) So she was calling you on your cell phone.

(Jim) Mmm. Or whoever it was. (smirks)

(Reid) Gotcha... okay...

(Male) Hey, have you ever called her on your cell phone? Anything like that?

(Jim) No... no... never... not til tonight.

(Male) Okay. (flipping papers) And I know, tonight, a lot of things... you wanted to... (long pause) express certain things, you wanted to, uh.... te... kinda, kinda, I'm trying, I'm trying to...

(Jim laughs, loudly) Okay! I understand.

(Male) I'm trying to express your feelings, Jim... I'm trying to express your feelings. And... Because I wanna get it right. I don't wanna say something that's not right.

(Jim) Okay.

(Male) And... but, you... tonight, you now, you wanted to see how she was emotionally, sexually, umm...

(Jim) Mmm-hmm.

(Male) Is that, is that, is that, is that where the condoms come into play?

(Jim) What?

(Male) The condoms you had on you?

(Jim) I, I, I, I wanted to put them in my pocket, okay, which I did last night also - maybe that should be noted (gestures to the detectives) - I, I, I put the condoms in my pocket tonight, uh, if, if, if, if something culminated that she... that it went that direction, I at least had some protection.

(Male) You wanted (unintelligible) to be safe?

(Jim) Okay. The same reason why I had them in my pocket LAST night. In case, when I went to the swinger's club (jazz hands), I would have them, in, in that case.

(Male) And you... and you protect yourself.

(Jim) N... I... No. I... no, yeah. Number one, I, I protect myself. Number two, I protect the person who's involved.

(Male) Just like I said, you, you, care about people? I understand, you would want... like I said, you didn't want to hurt nobody, you...

(Jim) Exactly, exactly...

(Male) And tonight, if it went in that direction, you were at least... been prepared.

(Jim) Prepared if I did it... If it came to that... point. Which... (long pause, Jim leers with his eyebrows) Did I really expect it to be there? No...

(Male) Did you want it to be there?

(Jim) Ohh, yeah, I'd love to be! (intent! -Ed.) Only, only, only in the sense that I'm frustrated as hell. Went to the swinger's club, nobody there, ehh! (sticks out tongue, starts laughing) And I can go down, I can go down a list!

(Reid) Up and down... up and down...

(Jim) I can go down the list, it's been two weeks since I had a, hah! And, uh, yeah, I'm frustrated as hell! But, the, and, uh, expectations of it being there? ... Not any more than anything else... really... And it, it, it, it, it really is aggress- it's an aggressive nature on my part, y'know, I... I...

(Male) But you have feelings, I mean...

(Jim) Well, but, (unintelligible), what I'm thinking is... okay. I'm gonna go over and meet her. So, so whatever, whatever happens, okay it's fine, and then I'm thinking, okay, I'll stop over at, at, um, Rhino's, after, after, so maybe there's - Do you know Rhino's? Rhino's is over - it's a, it's a bar over in, in Eastgate. Ok, so I, heh, y'know, if, if this like doesn't, doesn't happen, or, whatever... I'm ready. (slaps pocket indicating condoms) That's exactly where I was.

(At this point Jim leans back and tents his fingers on his stomach. He smiles smugly, as if thinking, "I am NAILING this.")

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