New Jeff Stacy picure!!

Ok. Since this debate has lasted for more than a week now, I suggest we try to resolve it.

If you are truly as passionate about protecting children as you seem to be and genuinely believe Jeff is still a threat who has failed to learn anything over the last 10+ years, you need to contact the dojo and inform them of his past. While his picture is down, if you are sincere, you should do so just to be absolutely certain that he had been terminated and have viewed his footage/RSO pictures. Perhaps link to his social media as well. Then get back to us if they reply, and that should resolve this conversation.

By the way, I know this isn't illegal, but you seem to have some odd sexual tastes yourself. You know, considering you once asked a girl to stick her finger up her behind and let you know what it tastes like.

templeoftcap.freeforums.net/thread/5695/babst-underrated-terms-depravity

See, but it shouldn't be in your conscience cause again, not your business or concern one way or the other. There's a ton more dangerous than Stacy hanging about. Those shouldn't be your business or concern either. Only way you should worry about what Stacy does would be if your child was involved. 

And yes everyone who is enthralled with a 10+ year old news show dedicated to exposing adults having sex with young teens and 12 year olds is sick and obsessed. I am also guilty of that.

I forgot that Jeff is always honest and highly intelligent. Confirmed fake it is. 

And for the umpteenth time, someone has clearly already contacted the dojo.

Obviously not you, because you are an advocate of sex offenders being allowed to work with children.

The world would be a terrible place if people only concerned themselves with things that affected their own children. I don't want any children to be molested, not just my own, as I'm sure is the same for you. So sometimes interfering is in the best interest of children that are not your own.

I think I mentioned earlier that I personally wouldn't go as far as to contact the dojo, but I can see why someone might feel the need to if they think Jeff poses a potential threat (Or just for fun).

Why would I feel the need to leave? What consenting adults do is their own business. I can't believe you're using that as a stick to beat me with, but by all means if you want to resort to dirty tactics to try and win this debate or have the last word, fire away!

By the same token, and you've said as much yourself, my opinion means as much as yours or anyone else's. You're the one attempting to stifle free speech and dialogue, not me. The fact that you don't see anything wrong with a pedophile pursuing a vocation that puts him in frontline contact with children says as much about you as it does me. Trust me, if I contacted/contact the dojo that's my business and not something that I will share here.

If I or anyone else "disrupts" Stacy's life it's only because he makes it easy with his tacit lack of shame or remorse for his past actions. When you maintain a social media page against RSO restrictions, and when you are foolish enough to post pictures of underage girls to your account, and when you are foolish enough to add underage children as friends (people who have no idea about his history), and when you are foolish enough to pursue a vocation that puts you in contact with children - then you deserve everything that comes to you.

It's his own stupidity, arrogance and shortsightedness that will be his undoing.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. The parents of the children that go to this dojo are likely unaware of Stacy's past. It's well within their rights to be aware of it. After that, it's up to the dojo and parents to decide how they feel about progressing forward with this information.

It's not at the discretion of Stacy as you seem to think, nor is at my or your discretion.

The people who ultimately have a say in this are the parents of children at the dojo and the dojo, seeing as they'll be the ones held liable if Stacy relapses and attempts to harm another child.

Get over it.

It's not a dirty tactic at all. You posted that on a public forum, and once again on a thread I started, and therefore is not dirty. If you're embarrassed by it, too bad. If not, great. 

I have not attempted to stifle free speech whatsoever. You're free to think or say whatever you like, but you can't possibly be surprised when others disagree with you or take you to task on what you are saying. So you're prepared to spend a week or more on a forum discussing your moral outrage about Jeff working with underage children, but not willing to do anything about it. The fact that you're not willing to do anything about it once again suggests that you just want the 'last word' in the debate. 

While Jeff's picture has been removed and someone may have contacted the dojo, if you are truly as morally upstanding as you would like us to believe, you need to contact them anyway and make them aware of it. After all, if the dojo receives more than one email on the topic, perhaps they will be even more diligent next time they add someone to their staff. Perhaps they won't, but I would think that someone who is so concerned about the safety of children would want to take every step possible to ensure they were. But since you are not sincere, you're not going to do that. 

I'm not worried about my tone. I tried to be respectful and you twice insulted my intelligence and shifted the debate rom being a difference of opinion to personal insults. Sorry if it offends your sensibilities. 

Why would I be embarrassed about what two consenting adults do?

You're just deciding I haven't done anything about it. The bottom line is his picture wasn't taken off the main page for no reason right after this thread was started. And is my moral indignation any worse than people advocating the presence of a sex offender in a class frequented by children or the tacit victim shaming re: "decoy was almost 16"?

"But since you are not sincere" - ah, more confirmation bias and insults.

When have I been insulting? Point this out for me and I will apologise if that's the case. IIRC I may have called someone obtuse because they were deliberately misrepresenting what I was saying or blatantly ignoring certain points I was making.

Then by all means send his info to the dojo. Seems to me that would be a more proactive step in protecting children, if you care about that, than being a keyboard warrior and doing nothing about it. IF you do believe Jeff to be an imminent threat to minor, you really ought to take all steps necessary to ensure the dojo is truly aware his past. Hell, if multiple people email them about it, they may be extra careful next time. 

The reasons opposing doing so have been outlined at length throughout this thread, if you care to read them. If not, please do contact the dojo and let us know what they have said. 

Then we can let this point rest. 

You yourself admitted earlier in this thread that you have not sent anything to do dojo, and so that is the basis for my belief that you have not taken any action. And at the risk of being repetitive, anyone who is truly willing to advocate for this position will do more than simply chat about maybe doing something. You're also not willing to demonstrate the fact that you have sent anything to the dojo, apparently because that would be your business, and yet it is the whole essence of this debate. 

No one has misrepresented your points. Your points have been addressed in full throughout this thread. 

Those teeth, gross.